Episode #4: Commute Seattle executive Jonathan Hopkins describes the high-speed-rail utopia we didn’t know we needed. The Army vet and DADT-overturn hero also walks Ian through how he got his sense of community, what obligations he thinks we have to one another, and how we can start to heal the red/blue divide, which he says is more like sports fandom than serious ideological differences.


After leading a successful effort to pass Sound Transit 3 ST3 and connect the Seattle metro area, Jonathan is leading the effort to connect the whole Cascadia region via high speed rail. Check out Commute Seattle to stay involved in their work.

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